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@Tuoni said in Spell crafting:

(...)However, because DS advertises this less grind, maybe they have something special in their sleeves(...)

We already know what they 'have up their sleeves' if you read through the spotlight on the topic?

@Tuoni said in Spell crafting:

(...)Repeatable killing can be avoided e.g. combining killing with exploration. Meaning if you would need to kill 100 creatures to complete a task, it could be changed need to kill 10 different kind of creatures in different locations(...)

Every ability has a list of 6 tasks associated with it. Once you accomplish 2 of these, the ability is 'discovered'/unlocked. In order to get from Level 1 to 2 and from 2 to 3 for a specific ability, you need to accomplish 4/6 of these tasks. Examples of tasks would be: Find, interact with, or kill specific creatures - Kill some specific creatures in a unique way - Find, collect or refine some amount of a specific resource - Consume X units of a specific item - Be hit X times by a specific spell -
Perform a specific combat action X times - Explore one or more world locations.
Rest in a specific location - Craft X units of a specific item - Die in a specific way.

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@Jetah said in Spell crafting:

(...)explore (...)location can be sold(...)

See, that's the difference in the definition of the term 'grinding' I was talking about. Yes, locations can become common knowledge (every successful game develops plenty of wiki/hint/guide pages), but exploration is usually not considered 'grind' by the majority of players.

@Jetah said in Spell crafting:

(...)I'm sorry but there will be a grind regardless what the developers say(...)

The problem is the difference in the definition of the term 'grind' when it comes to people.

@Jetah said in Spell crafting:

(...)I've seen it disguised as a percent bar instead of a number bar. IE you kill 10 mobs and you gain 1% then you know you'll need to kill 100 which is no different than seeing 10/100 bar.

That's not how things are supposed to work in Fractured tough. It's important that we differentiate between 'unlocking' and gaining 'knowledge points'. Since you can redistribute your knowledge points during a resting phase (which you need in order to change your hotbar anyway), the main point of importance for the competitive gamer is turning a spell's state from unknown to discovered.
According to the spotlight on this feature:
'(...)Ability learning tasks never require you to repeat the same action for hours. Instead, they’re designed encourage you to explore and travel – rewarding cleverness and bravery, not time spent grinding(...)'

@Tuoni said in Spell crafting:

(...)Knowledge Points(...)

Knowledge points are of lesser importance, since they can be redistributed across discovered spells.

While I am not a developer for this game and hence have no say in this, this kind of information is usually under NDA. There is very limited use in this kind of information (amount of bugs reported and fixed) and most people with less of a software development background would misunderstand the figures.
The last state of the game update is only about 10 days old, so, I don't think you're going to see additional information that soon. It's better they focus their time, energy and resources on producing the game

@Meiki said in Spell crafting:

(...)there was never a single mention of that that you should lose any progress while you log out(...)

I explained the term persistent progress to you, since you misunderstood the term to mean linear progress, as by your own response. It is crucial for communication that all parties involved have the same understanding of terminology.

@Meiki said in Spell crafting:

(...)just trying to prove your point for the sake of doing so is a really a strange concept(...) If you are not fond of a theory, just do not participate in it in a toxic way.

I am by no means trying to prove my point for the sake of doing so. I have financially invested in a product (the game) and am trying to point out flaws that I see in the combination of the concept of spell crafting with what has been advertised to be core design pillars of this game. And (at least I hope so) in a rather respectful way. If you consider everything that doesn't applaud your idea to be toxic, I am sorry to hear and can restrict my responses towards you from now on.

@Meiki said in Spell crafting:

(...)already provided more than enough ways how you can keep progress without scratching it or making something obsolete. If you still keep on pressing the fact it is progressless(...)

If you reread my replies carefully, you might realize that I am not trying to imply there would be NO means of persistent progress, but LESS means of persistent progress and instead spread further out. It is a simple concept of enumerative combinatorics. that the number of members of a set can never exceed the number of combinations. Spreading out persistent progress doesn't align well with the core design pillar of enabling 'day one competition'. Less persistent progress means more work for the developers to create content.

@Meiki said in Spell crafting:

(...)it has been already said that such a system will not be here(...)

You are suggesting an implementation, that is far from a theoretic discussion.