Whats your favorite character Class to play on your first Character
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@gothix said in Whats your favorite character Class to play on your first Character:
@fibs said in Whats your favorite character Class to play on your first Character:
@gothix said in Whats your favorite character Class to play on your first Character:
Yes if you made char with balanced attribute points, but what if you made a char with max DEX/PER and placed 0 to INT? Or placed so little to INT that your magic doesn't really hurt the mob, and he keeps destroying you.
Then you intentionally made a terrible build and blamed the game for your incompetence.
Devs said "every knowledge point is possible to get solo"... they did not say "every knowledge point is possible to get solo IF you made your character with balanced attributes".
(Also, devs value this system where a players can make different, unique characters, with broad variations on attribute allocation, so all players can feel (and be) different. They would not go and punish certain character builds to not be able to unlock points, specially since attribute allocation is PERMANENT)
I agree, if the Knowledge system can be completed solo, there need to be ways for every build to succeed (assuming you don't build anything rediculous and obviously bad). A specialized build is not a gimped build. On the contrary, attributes give an extra bonus at level 20 precisely because the devs expect people to run specialized builds. The various attribute caps for non-Human races point in that direction as well.
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@target said in Whats your favorite character Class to play on your first Character:
I'll be trying out a mix of melee and illlusion first.
@gothix said in Whats your favorite character Class to play on your first Character:
I guess, there is just no discussion with some people. You are a prime example and prove that point...
Fibs is by far the most toxic person on the forum. He's on my list of people to keep an eye out for when the game launches
I seriously doubt he will name his in game character the same as his forum nickname though.
He will hide himself good. 
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@Vengu @Gothix Well, tbh it probably can still be done, just would take you a long ass time lol. In saying that though, I dont like when everything can be done by one person alone, kind of makes the MMO part pointless. Maybe mages can damage everything by themselves, but I'm sure they will struggle to get away or tank certain fast or ranged enemies too meaning they would require the help of a tank or other individual. I think thats what classes are for too, thats how you specialise and are useful to others because of your abilities and skills. Thats my opinion however, maybe others dont see it that way.
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@miffi said in Whats your favorite character Class to play on your first Character:
@Vengu @Gothix Well, tbh it probably can still be done, just would take you a long ass time lol. In saying that though, I dont like when everything can be done by one person alone, kind of makes the MMO part pointless. Maybe mages can damage everything by themselves, but I'm sure they will struggle to get away or tank certain fast or ranged enemies too meaning they would require the help of a tank or other individual. I think thats what classes are for too, thats how you specialise and are useful to others because of your abilities and skills. Thats my opinion however, maybe others dont see it that way.
The thing is, Prometheus himself said that the Knowledge System can be soloed. It would be weird if non-INT builds were excluded from that design philosophy.
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@Miffi As I wrote before, I will be playing in guild, and I don't mind either way.
I'm actually advocating solo players here (for a change, lol) for the reason that devs mentioned that they wish to make Fractured more friendly for solo players than Albion Online is.If that is the case, they will not make it impossible for certain characters (based on their attribute point distribution) to have certain mobs impossible to handle, even after switching their builds.
Also take a special note that when you start playing, you do not have alternate builds to chose from, and you gotta make do with what you have on start. So unlocking knowledge points can not be an impossible task, specially since solo players should be able to do it.
This means that solo players with 0 INT, and starting decks, should still be somehow able to handle physical immune mobs (even if it will be hard).
But, as I said, anything is fine by me. I actually prefer MMO to be extra hard, and not appropriate for solo player. I will be playing in guild, and I love challenging content, so... all good.
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The thing is, Prometheus himself said that the Knowledge System can be soloed. It would be weird if non-INT builds were excluded from that design philosophy.
I agree, I think it should be difficult for all builds, INT included. Not saying impossible, but difficult. Basically, requesting aid would speed up and make you goal much easier but if you have the tenacity that you can still do it solo.
@Gothix Thats true, but most likely those difficult mobs wont be starting area creatures? I'm assuming of course but more than likely the first few abilities and spells should be fairly easy to collect and not require tremendous work. Then once you wont to further your tiers then is when it becomes more of a challenge and the use of co-op play? I'm also a group player lol I'm just not so solo player friendly, maybe I should be more though lol!
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@Miffi We are all solo players from time to time, sometimes when grinding, or solo PvPing, not always doing it in group. Sometimes playing solo can be quite fun.
That being said, I do prefer group content and a social atmosphere, organized group PvP, etc. The harder the MMO is, the better (imo).
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@gothix said in Whats your favorite character Class to play on your first Character:
@Miffi We are all solo players from time to time, sometimes when grinding, or solo PvPing, not always doing it in group. Sometimes playing solo can be quite fun.
That being said, I do prefer group content and a social atmosphere, organized group PvP, etc. The harder the MMO is, the better (imo).
This is true, I concede to that. We are all solo players at one point. Maybe I mean that a players goal should really be to join a group in an MMO, however that looks to them. I would say more so in Fractured considering the liabilities running around by yourself as a potential easy kill for someone lol
I feel there should always be an advantage of being in a group as opposed to being solo, otherwise being in a group is pointless if there is none.
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Ho yeah; I will play a Big Bear Adventurer, surely spesialized in tanking. tanking is a way of life!
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@target said in Whats your favorite character Class to play on your first Character:
Fibs is by far the most toxic person on the forum. He's on my list of people to keep an eye out for when the game launches
Considering you're chums with Gothix, I don't really trust your idea of "toxic".
And considering your implied incompetence in everything from building a character to playing one, I doubt I'll have anything to worry about from you.
Insincerity and cowardice don't impress me.
I seriously doubt he will name his in game character the same as his forum nickname though.
He will hide himself good. I expect most players to post their character names on the forums, and I will do the same.
Then you can come find me, and I can put you in your place, any time you like... unless you bring backup dancers to do your fighting for you and devolve the game into numbers - must be why you keep stressing you're going to be in a guild, a redundant assertion considering every single player should be in a guild even if they don't actively participate in guild functions.
The thing is, Prometheus himself said that the Knowledge System can be soloed. It would be weird if non-INT builds were excluded from that design philosophy.
And they won't; the difference between minimum and maximum stats in Fractured isn't very high compared to other MMOs, especially given the lack of levels and thus the lack of scaling.
I was simply responding to the hypothetical situation of a complete moron making a build and then complaining his build can't do what he didn't make it for.
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@fibs Thanks for confirming my point.
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@target Thanks for exposing yourself as a troll.
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@Target @FibS Calm down and keep it ontopic. If I see any more posts of you two attacking each other, I will delete them.
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Oh yeah, I should probably actually answer the topic question.
I usually pick a fairly solid knight or other melee whomp class for a first character until he builds up the funds to make whatever other characters I want. I would play a magic swordsman, but magic sucks and is unfun in pretty much every MMO and I never use it if I can at all help it.
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@gothix said in Whats your favorite character Class to play on your first Character:
It was said do not try to shoot rock monster with your arrows (immunities, weaknesses), but if archer can not use his arrows, what is he supposed to do? Use magic? Cool, but archer buffed up his DEX on player creation not his INT, so if there are no magical arrows based on DEX archer will be disadvantaged.
@vengu said in Whats your favorite character Class to play on your first Character:
This is actually one of my biggest concerns. If I am a DEX/PER archer, and I face a rock monster that's practically immune to arrows, what am I going to do? I don't have the strength to start pummeling it with hammers and I don't have the int to start shooting it with whatever spell works well against a rock monster. Am I just screwed?
You're not an archer. You're a high-DEX/PER character who has decided to play as an archer. Hold a DEX-based melee weapon, take a resting phase, pick the proper set of abilities (assuming you know them, of course) and talents, and you're ready for the dungeon
Otherwise, if you really want to play ranged and kill that stone mob, yeah, ways to enchant your arrows exist - several, in fact. Unless you've made a character with 6-8 INT, you should be able to use them decently.
Now, if the creatures you're fighting are completely immune from physical damage (some exist, and vice-versa as well) and you've made a character with 6 INT then the situation is more complex. Having a friend would be the best thing, but there are workarounds. Get +2 INT from talents. Use abilities that summon magical weapons (even low INT is enough for those). Use weapons crafted with materials that make them deal some magical damage. In a way or the other you can make it!
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I usually plan a melee dps toon, especially if dual wielding is on the table. I am looking forward to figuring out how to mix the use of magic into that as I usually don't touch the stuff.
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I have always loved to play a warrior class myself. I love the armor and sword and shield upgrade line, nothing makes you feel stronger than progressing from leather to chain to scale to plate better than a warrior. The ability to have single hand weapon and a shield or a 2 handed weapon for massive damage also allows for varied game play without an entire class reset. I also like getting up close to see the monsters vs standing back, its just more exciting to be their primary target. Then after getting to know the world I pick up a hunter class for straight up massive dps.
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Anything involving daggers/poison/DoT based attacks.
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Typically I'll play a Healer or Caster type first.
It really depends on what I think I'll like for the game....
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I always play healer classes in some shape or form. So I will probably play something like a healer here too.
