@gothix you trying to compere oranges and tomato and don't understand why they are not the same...
usually beastman will farm on their planet, and demon will try to attack, that why beast will need the FF off cause they will not be used to get attacked and defend as group.
while demon do not go and do PVE, so they will roam in small groups, 1-4 players, and they will be on the alert all times... for the very off chance that beastman attack the 2 groups will be FF on.

@specter didn't know that, i fought they are like beastman.

@gothix in my suggestion the beast have FF off only on their planet.
And who are you kidding? Tartaros life is full of FFA PVP.

@gothix that not true, usually a group come from one direction, so range unit will stand close one to others, and they will be able to hit themselves while melee can just move little bit and not hit themselves.
and about the beast kin plant, well if u going to invade and disturb their lives, you will have to deal with the consonances, so FF off for the beast on their planet sounds find.
Conclusion: friendly fire brings good mechanics to the game, and not only senseless zerging. it must to be in game.

@Vortech and lag do not forget that.

i really hope that climate will have effects in the game, it always missed me in games i played.

i think they will distribute the keys in a month and half or so.

@fibs i already said what i think is the best idea:

@grofire said in Massive battles: will "big numbers" always win?:

@target a simple answer will be to turn on good FF in other planets then their own.

@grofire said in Massive battles: will "big numbers" always win?:

@target said in Massive battles: will "big numbers" always win?:

@grofire I don't see how that would help. The big gvg fights will take place on a guild's home planet because guilds can't conquer towns on other planets. Also your suggestion would lead to beastmen going to Syndesia and being able to kill everyone which goes against the intent of the alignment system.

@target a good character can't attack good or neutral players! and if even they could, in my suggestion a good character will be with FF "on" in Syndesia and Tartros so they can hurt themselves.

@fibs said in Massive battles: will "big numbers" always win?:

The most obvious drawback is that you now have to newly plan and implement what happens when Good players attack other Good or Neutral players, as this was formerly not possible and thus not considered.

who said that, as much i seen good can't attack other good and neutral, did you see anyone from DS saying otherwise??

@target said in Massive battles: will "big numbers" always win?:

@grofire I don't see how that would help. The big gvg fights will take place on a guild's home planet because guilds can't conquer towns on other planets. Also your suggestion would lead to beastmen going to Syndesia and being able to kill everyone which goes against the intent of the alignment system.

@target a good character can't attack good or neutral players! and if even they could, in my suggestion a good character will be with FF "on" in Syndesia and Tartros so they can hurt themselves.