founder that all i can get

i like it very much, and it work perfectly with the knowledge system.

@genobee it was stated by people that are not part of DS, like fibs, you really need to be careful what you hear from people that are not DS, many people will say something that isn't true.

for example in the tree section you have a photo of the cut tree and branches, add the raw tree, so it will be easy to find when you need it.

@KingofKings i agree! cities have to much emphasis, and solo players are left behind.

@WaterMerchant please do not offer people not to play this game, especially when you wrong, this is not a full PVP game !!!! this is all gameplay welcome game.
there is 3 world, pvp, pve only and mix, all worlds have end game.

what is the issue ? there is 3 different planets, it will be hard to get to the same place 2 characters.

cohh carnage Is a twitch player with 16k viewers stream daily that play different mmo's, he done some sponsoring in the past https://www.twitch.tv/cohhcarnage

@GorTavaro i have an issue to remember how every thing is look like, and i think many people have it too, and i do not want to alt out every time to see a photo, and there is already a place for photos in the knowledge book, so why not ?
and i understand you are a wiki editor, but you do not need to push the wiki pages to every place. my suggestion is about ingame data that should be ingame.

please all, go to https://www.mmorpg.com/fractured/hype and press hype...
if you do not have an account:

1. create account
2. reply on one of the game announcements
3. then go and cast the the hype vote!

people, there is 52% right now, and 13 days to go we need to help people to notice this game !

@Sepoy hello there,

Talents felt like a major letdown. I was very excited when I bought my first talent as I assumed it would be a character defining moment. Instead, it was a 2.5% cooldown reduction. Literally shaved my latency off the cooldown. That was quite the downer. Big enough that I wondered out of town for a bit and just logged off

there is several post about this issue. some players, like me, thinks that the game in its current state have no progression, and without that the game is just boring and unfun, like you just logging of.
and some players think this is how the should be.
thanks for giving your feedback.

@Kralith said in Siege Time outside of towns primetime?:

11pm UTC

ya its 2am for me

@GamerSeuss said in Few In-Game Suggestions:

@grofire And not all Fun games include progress.

Ultima Online, ,arguably the first major MMO to come out didn't really progress beyond a certain point, as @spoletta said, yet people came back for years and years, and there are still people playing the game today.

Another example is SecondLife. SecondLife is a social game in the same league as The Sims, but other than amassing some in-game wealth, there really isn't too much progression in it. Second Life is a beloved game, that is played by many groups still. IMVU is a clone of SecondLife, and so it is probably similar (don't know, didn't need a clone)

Think of games like Pokemon games, not the Gotta Catch'em All ones, what about Pokemon Safari. A HUGELY popular member of the Pokemon franchise, that didn't really have levels or anything. You just wanted to collect all the pokemon...and then, once you did, you kept playing for the joy of playing, no progression needed.

pokemon as hundreds of pokemon to get and fill the book, what do you call that if not progress?
sims you start from a blank page and make a city isn't it a progress ?
i didn't play UO but you said, that beyond some point there was no progress and then people stop playing regularly, and would play on and off....
progress can be in different ways, but no progress is no fun.

@spoletta every game of dota is a vertical instance as i already shown by this example:

you start every game at level 1 and go up to 30.
level 1 is extremely weak, so weak that, 1 level 30 can kill probably infinite amount of level 1 players.
or take a real situation mid will be level 9 while offlane will be level 5 or 6, and level 9 will win every time.

maybe you just do not understand what is vertical progression ?

and progress many times mean fun... progress = fun...
so i do not see your point.

@spoletta said in Few In-Game Suggestions:

@grofire I said 1 week to give a number. Personally after 1 week and half of play I'm out of the young player protection, so that could be a good reference.

As for examples, the first ones that come to mind are UO and LoA. After you were "done" with your char, you played it for years without going after some kind of powerup, but simply because you were engaged in the competition. Be it PKing, guild competitions, trading or whatever you liked doing, you played day after day without any mind to vertical scaling.

didn't play them so maybe some one else that did can come join the discussion.

Also, don't forget that this game is an hybrid between an MMO and a MOBA, and in MOBA there is absolutely no kind of vertical scaling, yet players have been playing it for 10 years. If the game is fun, there is no need for that kind of carrot.

MOBA is the worst example for your point, lets take dota 2, you start every game at level 1 and go up to 30.
level 1 is extremely weak, so weak that, 1 level 30 can kill probably infinite amount of level 1 players.
or take a real situation mid will be level 9 while offlane will be level 5 or 6, and level 9 will win every time.
so dota 2 is basically the ultimate vertical progression game. so as different MOBAs.

@spoletta said in Few In-Game Suggestions:

By new player I don't mean literally a char that was just created. We have a young protection in place afterall. Someone who has played for 1 week has that minimum amount of talents and a few sets of skills already.

so you say 1 week, now that you put a number lets play with this number why 1 week and not 1 day ? or 1 month?
since you decided a 1 week character should be able to play against 2 years players ?

Also, vertical progression and longevity are not strictly related. While there aren't many games without any progression, there are a lot where you reach the cap quite fast and then you play for different reason than progress. As long as there's some kind of content in game to keep you in it (and for sandboxes that content kind of creates itself), you don't need a continous vertical progress.

please give examples, i never seen this, maybe they max level but not the strength levels.

@spoletta i understand where you coming from, but it can't be in the real world for 2 reasons:

1. players will not stay 2 years to play a game when they are the same as they started, with no vertical progression.
2. the skill system is already broken the horizontal progression, a new player start the game with a few skills, lets say fire bolt, and old player got the fire resistance skill, and there you go the new player will not be able to win the old player, he will lose 99% of the times, do you suggest to remove the fire resistance skill?

@spoletta well as i said to @GamerSeuss, i do not know when you joined, but from the start the game didn't been no vertical achievement, it was changed only after people paid for the kickstarter, like i did!
and now after testing its very obvious i was right then, its crystal clear that with no vertical achievement this game is boring and not fun.

@GamerSeuss your wrong, from the first day i joined this game, pre kickstarter, the main focus from the dev was NO GRIND, no body talked about no vertical achievement (and i showed this in the skill image i shared on this thread), the first time the vertical achievement was addressed and changed was after the kickstarter and it raised a storm, by me and others that left since then, seen this game going very different place from what that was promised, you can see this on this post.

so no im not the one that "back a game, then immediately try to change a core concept" as you said, the no vertical achievement people are the one who do.

@GamerSeuss look, im all forward for testing different skill, and balancing all, so nothing will be too strong.
but that is not what @spoletta saying, he do not want synergy between talents, so there will not be vertical differences, his fine with talents being one build thing, in that case you can probably get 10 out of the 60 talents, like in this test, and that is shallow and boring.

i want vertical achievement, i want that there will be difference between old player and new player, and i want new player to be able to do all on the day they log in the game for the first time, doesn't matter if its pve or pvp or crafting. and most important i do not think this 2 are opposing to each other.