@target as I said I can see why devs wouldn't want that. But seeing how the treads about WASD keeps popping there might be enough people for them to bother to do that.
Basically we gave a number of reasons why our side wants it and wasting time is the only argument against. I do find it quite offending for our side.
@tsoo you don't kill people by accident. You only incapacitate them - to kill them you have to walk to the body and do kill action 
Not sure about karma loss from just KOing a good player - there is temporary status that let good players attack you but not sure if there is any karma loss.
@target I still don't understand why anyone (other them devs ) would be against optional WASD....
@gothix said in Friendly Fire:
@tulukaruk said in Friendly Fire:
@gothix basically good have advantage over evil and neutral got advantage over good
How neutral has advantage over good?
Good cannot attack neutral at all before neutral attacks good. Neutral can just walk up to good without being hit.
@gothix basically good have advantage over evil and neutral got advantage over good 
@specter isn't it best if everyone vents here? it's safe, doesn't hurt anyone and sometimes it's fun to watch 
Waiting is always hard.
@greenfire people are just excited and as we don't know if the pre-alpha start will be announced some are worried that it already started without them.
@benseine said in Pre-alpha invites!:
@logain a pm on this forum that your pre-alpha invite has been sent by mail would be much apreaciated.
That's what I said! it's easy to miss a mail that went to spam but you cannot miss forum PM
@Gothix only if you're below -2500 your limited to evil. We still don't really know what -2500 means and how easy will it be to reach it
@Kralith if you're good you shouldn't kill people that prank you and if you're neutral or evil you'll be free to do that
@jetah said in Friendly Fire:
we better not have alignment locks. it should always float depending on your actions.
Beastman on Arboreus, Angels and Abominations will have alignment locked.
And is it really no FF on Arboreus? Even for evil characters? I understood that it will be alignment based not planet base but maybe I was wrong...
@gothix I think it's balanced by the fact that good chars cannot attack neutrals before they hit them (if I remember correctly they can fight back - not sure). Many evil chars should be able to switch to neutral and in big fights you can go without getting Thief or Murderer. Then the good chars will be in disadvantage.
@jetah i'm pretty sure that if you're not alignment locked you can always turn neutral from good even if your karma is huge and as neutral char you can start being mischievous and naughty
@topic
The term Friendly Fire is a bit misleading here as the good alignment lock will stop you from attacking good or neutral opponents as well. While it might be hard to imagine good attacker what stops evil group from getting good or neutral healer that would be safe from at least part of the damage. And if by any chance you have evil player in your group he should be hit by your AoE just fine.
@evolgrinz Fractured is Sandbox RPG so not like Baldur's Gate - it's a bit like EVE and old Star Wars. The isometric look can make you think about Baldur's Gate but that's it
@jairone necromancy needs bodies to raise so probably there won't be any big zombie armies additionally you're limited by your charisma as @Gofrit said.
@eurav said in Quests for classes:
@mae said in Quests for classes:
Maybe missions? Mission from whatever god you worship,
Well there are already divine quests for that
Exactly. And the gods don't care for such minor stuff like your skills Divine quests are for divine favor! (or race change )
@eurav animal taming is for taming mobs - catching them in the wild. Pets are special creatures you'll have to buy or get somehow
@logain still better then only one of us getting it
you spoil me too much thanks.
And we stayed on same level with @Logain