im a bit worried about full loot system in term of pvp
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you see full loot system have big issue i believe is reverse the game concept same how we see in albion online , so lets say someone grind for good gear long enough and suddenly he got ganked and they took all his armor , what he will do then ? he will do reverse concept which means shitty gear will become something very viable and everyone want to use it and ofc no one will want to grind very long for a gear just to get killed and lose it , maybe good gear viable for beastmen peaceful environment but useless in pvp , what do you guys think ?
PS: sorry english not my main language
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Well, this game is meant to have no grind so I don't think you'll have to worry much about that
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so how pve progression system work then ? don't i get good gear when i finish raid/dungeon/world boss ? and i have RNG system so i have to kill it more and grind it ?
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@omarxz11 All gear is crafted and gear progression is horizontal. So instead of having different tiers, items simply have different bonuses.
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So Prometheus calls it "horizontal progression" where your character doesn't really gain stats, but knowledge, abilities, and materials
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@cinnao even if its horizontal , you still need grind rare materials to craft best gear and knowlege, abilites = power or even better than just armor with bunch of stats on it and thus lead me to my original post viewpoint
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I can't give a definitive answer, but gear is situational so I don't think there is a "best" weapon or armor
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Also, you can't use all of your abilities at the same time anyways
so rather than more abilities = more power it's closer to good combo = more power
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@cinnao seems you don't know , but thanks for reply anyway
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Check Vengu's "Compilation of everything we know about Fractured" post on general discussions, I think you'll find what you want under a combat or equipment tab
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@omarxz11
full loot worked in UO. i'm not sure if Albion online was ever referring to UO though.
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oh no.
my regular copper weapon and armor set that was going to degrade within a week.
aaaaaaaaaaaaah.
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@omarxz11 Albion Online was horrible grind game. I hope this game will do most things different.
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There should be valuable things as items. Whats the point of full loot at all if we gain nothing. There should be a little bit differencies and mid range power gaps at all. Because most of the things like terms and gameplay i concern about them to feel empty. I am just saying.. sooner or later we will experience it
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Don't equip anything you can't afford to lose. Problem solved.
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Well, the armor/weapons might be worthless. But if someone has been farming materials and is on the way to the shop to sell it and get killed, then the other can loot the resources and sell them instead. So there sure is a profit to make in killing someone and looting the corpse.
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I think it's good, it incentivizes things such as mercenaries and protection guilds and the like.
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keep in mind full loot is only for demons, if you're a human you don't need to worry about that.
now, the idea behind full loot is a very old one, games are generally designed around it so unless you REALLY screw up you're never really gonna be in a position where you lose many many hours of work. full loot pvp scenarios are designed around risk vs reward. keep anything you dont wanna lose in your bank and only bring what you need. bring more if youre willing to risk more for more gain. a good example of a game doing this well in the modern day is runescape imo.
it'll be scary, but the more stuff you risk, the more stuff youre gonna get. living as a demon is gonna be a balance of what stuff you wanna bring on you without bringing too much stuff of worth. play smart and get rich. and keep in mind this isnt purely you losing everything, other players are gonna get your items. that means you can also get other players items.
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@myux said in im a bit worried about full loot system in term of pvp:
if you're a human you don't need to worry about that.
Everyone can get looted, even beastmen on Arboreus outside of the safe zones. What you don't have to be worried about (if you're neutral or good aligned) is being looted by good aligned players.
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@memokal said in im a bit worried about full loot system in term of pvp:
There should be valuable things as items. Whats the point of full loot at all if we gain nothing. There should be a little bit differencies and mid range power gaps at all. Because most of the things like terms and gameplay i concern about them to feel empty. I am just saying.. sooner or later we will experience it
Nobody ever said you'd never loot valuable items. Just that the vast majority of equipment isn't going to be worth much.
Besides, looting equipment will let you learn other race's style motifs or weapon templates you haven't got yet.
