I want to get excited but...
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@jetah said in I want to get excited but...:
there isn't much fair risk/reward when traveling to a planet and you get a 20% reduction in stats.
It's almost like you shouldn't do it or something.
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it's almost like it's a challenge that needs to be conquered!
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@jetah said in I want to get excited but...:
it's almost like it's a challenge that needs to be conquered!
Feel free to waste your time then.
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@fibs said in I want to get excited but...:
@jetah said in I want to get excited but...:
it's almost like it's a challenge that needs to be conquered!
Feel free to waste your time then.
nah, i'll get plenty of people that want to raid other planets with a debuff!
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@jetah said in I want to get excited but...:
nah, i'll get plenty of people that want to raid other planets with a debuff!
Not when one or two Beastmen can take out your entire crew in a couple seconds and you have to wait half an hour or more to try again!
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@finland said in I want to get excited but...:
@phaethonas Humans will do and all brave Beastmen, I'm already gathering/recruiting people under the same banner
Why would good humans go to Arboreus and defend the care bears? And will "brave" beastmen have enough numbers? And will they care to defend their care-bear brethren?
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Phaethonas TF#9 - FIRST AMBASSADOR May 2, 2018, 2:02 AM last edited by Phaethonas May 2, 2018, 2:03 AM
@finland said in I want to get excited but...:
@phaethonas said in I want to get excited but...:
The pvp extreme group, is group of pvpers that do not like competitive pvp. They like to kill easy pickings, whether these are pvers or low level pvpers. Call them gankers, or griefers or as anything else you want. As it stands now, Fractured will not cater to them. Which is good.
You are wrong. DS does not want that and for sure will change restrinctions or debuffs on Arboreus if there will be to easy to pking/ganking/griefing.
You may consider an extreme pvper a pker/griefer, I consider an extreme or to better say hard-core pvper a competitive player.
Oh so, you consider an extreme pvper the competitive pvper and you want Fractured not to cater for them? At what part are you disagreeing with me this time? Semantics? The fact that you want Fractured not to cater to competitive pvpers, when Fractured wants to cater to them? You want Arboreus restrictions to become stricter?
I have told you before, many times, that Fractured will not be a game you will like, hence you are proposing things that are the exact opposite of what the devs want to make, such as the inclusion of instances to an open world, sandbox game!
Your attitude is bordeline toxic. Not to me, not towards other fans, but to the devs themselves!
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i'm going to say it'll take a bunch more than one or two to take us out.
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@phaethonas said in I want to get excited but...:
@finland said in I want to get excited but...:
@phaethonas Humans will do and all brave Beastmen, I'm already gathering/recruiting people under the same banner
Why would good humans go to Arboreus and defend the care bears? And will "brave" beastmen have enough numbers? And will they care to defend their care-bear brethren?
To punish all low pkers around by bringing justice! I'm the justice! I will bring it some how and I will eradicate all the evil from our lands. Dunno how many will follow me but for sure I hope to find more players than those invading (talking about numbers). We'll see.
PS. I'm not up to do that all over the day obviusly.
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@phaethonas said in I want to get excited but...:
Oh so, you consider an extreme pvper the competitive pvper and you want Fractured not to cater for them?
I have never said that! That's why I asked for instanced pvp where it's purely skill based. Pking is not hardcore pvp.
Your attitude is bordeline toxic. Not to me, not towards other fans, but to the devs themselves!
Toxic? Silly tho. I'm just givin my point of you as I said many times. Mobas has hard core pvpers or extreme pvpers. Skill over playstyle. Pkers are like proplayers smurfing around to kill bronze players easly. I hate that.
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@jetah numbers spoke. If you invade with 20 demons I doubt that 1 or 2 bestmen will do something.
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@phaethonas yes
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@gothix Old but Gold
Thank you for this, I had totally forgotten it.enjoy this
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@finland said in I want to get excited but...:
@phaethonas said in I want to get excited but...:
Oh so, you consider an extreme pvper the competitive pvper and you want Fractured not to cater for them?
I have never said that! That's why I asked for instanced pvp where it's purely skill based. Pking is not hardcore pvp.
So, for all intents and purposes you want Fractured not to cater to competitive pvpers, because you are afraid of them! OK got it!
And I am saying "for all intents and purposes you want Fractured not to cater to competitive pvpers,", because you want them locked out of the open world and into the instances where you will not have to deal with them.
Well, as I have said to you before, your "vision" for the game is in direct opposition with the one the devs are having, and you will never get what you want.
Instances are not gonna happen, especially areanas. Competitive pvp will take place in the open world, and you just implied that you disagree with it.
Your attitude is bordeline toxic. Not to me, not towards other fans, but to the devs themselves!
Toxic? Silly tho. I'm just givin my point of you as I said many times. Mobas has hard core pvpers or extreme pvpers. Skill over playstyle. Pkers are like proplayers smurfing around to kill bronze players easly. I hate that.
Yes, your attitude is bordeline toxic, because your "point" goes against fundamental concepts of the game.
What would you call it if I went to Camelot Unchained and whinned at the forums for the lack of pve progression? What would you call it if I go to the Pantheon forums and whinned about the lack of arenas?
You like it or not, Fractured is a) open world, b) sandbox. You want to turn it into a) instanced and b) theme park! That is insane!
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@finland said in I want to get excited but...:
@phaethonas said in I want to get excited but...:
@finland said in I want to get excited but...:
@phaethonas Humans will do and all brave Beastmen, I'm already gathering/recruiting people under the same banner
Why would good humans go to Arboreus and defend the care bears? And will "brave" beastmen have enough numbers? And will they care to defend their care-bear brethren?
To punish all low pkers around by bringing justice! I'm the justice! I will bring it some how and I will eradicate all the evil from our lands. Dunno how many will follow me but for sure I hope to find more players than those invading (talking about numbers). We'll see.
PS. I'm not up to do that all over the day obviusly.
That is not a real incentive.
Also, you are a little bit over your head, aren't you? You are the justice?!! lol
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@phaethonas said in I want to get excited but...:
So, for all intents and purposes you want Fractured not to cater to competitive pvpers, because you are afraid of them! OK got it!
Stop it or I will get angry cause you do not want to listen others and you do not want to understand.
- I'm not afraid to PvP.
- Battleground (instanced PvP) it's skillfull
- I play Mostly PvP games aka FPS/RTS and Moba
You are wrong thinking Pkers are hard core PvPers.
Yes, your attitude is bordeline toxic, because your "point" goes against fundamental concepts of the game.
The only toxic here is you making others feel angry.
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@jetah said in I want to get excited but...:
@miffi said in I want to get excited but...:
@wyze said in I want to get excited but...:
People are so soft these days, just PvP and enjoy the adrenaline in your body when you being chased by a group trying to survive and not dropping your loot
or just kill people and ez loot + profit..Just enjoy the game don't think too much about it.
Whilst I do like to PvP personally, I dont think bullying people is the right way either. But this has already been pretty much dealt with due to the debuffs and so on. I would turn and fight, but I do feel bad for those who just wish to enjoy the gear and items they have worked for. As @kellewic pointed out previously, its that Pk'ers arent generally in it for the fair risk reward element, just to take what others have worked for. So its just the cowardly ones that bother me.
there isn't much fair risk/reward when traveling to a planet and you get a 20% reduction in stats.
Right, but thats because the person in question chose to go and take from someone else. Thats my point. If you want to take from others who do not wish to engage in that and be forced to do so then they take a reduction because of the choice. Also, I wasnt aware that the % was sai, so its a 20% reduction?
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@phaethonas He does have a point in that it seems that its just pk'ers looking for easy kills against those who dont know how to. I think thats the fear a lot of people have. But then again I'm quite happy with the decision DS have done with the stat reduction so I dont think its much of an issue anymore.
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@miffi The devs haven't revealed the severity of the debuff yet. It's something they will likely tweak during the alpha/beta anyway.
