What will be the in-game gold sinks?
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Wondering about the economy, and gold-sinks are at the core of everything.
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@tiltowait said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
Wondering about the economy, and gold-sinks are at the core of everything.
theft, repairs, regeared.
but really we dont know because there hasn't been a spotlight on it.
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@Jetah Those are not coin sink mechanisms, it's just money being moved from a player to another. Money sink is a system meant to reduce inflation (as much as possible). Usually it's done by removing money from the server via NPC (ex: buying stuff from them or paying a fee to start a siege).
Anyway, we know that the game will have an item sink mechanism so crafting remains relevant, but we don't know how it will work in detail. Money sink is even a more obscure detail and since the game is quite early in development, I wouldn't be surprised if DS haven't thought about it yet.
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@Razvan said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
@Jetah Those are not coin sink mechanisms, it's just money being moved from a player to another. Money sink is a system meant to reduce inflation (as much as possible). Usually it's done by removing money from the server via NPC (ex: buying stuff from them or paying a fee to start a siege).
Anyway, we know that the game will have an item sink mechanism so crafting remains relevant, but we don't know how it will work in detail. Money sink is even a more obscure detail and since the game is quite early in development, I wouldn't be surprised if DS haven't thought about it yet.depends on how repairs are done. and gear or house requires repairs.
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We will have to hire some npcs as the pledge packages give us a few months of free carpenters
So I'm hoping they wont be huge money sinks ( because a few of us have permanent vip/carpenters)
We dont even know what mobs will be dropping currency, or if it will have to be crafted in a mint.
Maybe metals will be stamped in to coins
Having a raw value as smeltables like old gold coins used tooIf mineable currency was a limited resource this could be one way to stop inflation, like if this gold mine under this city has 3 years then it wont make anymore gold.
All metal that can be turned in to currency does not respawn.We wouldnt need a gold sink then
But who knows if npcs didnt disappear money when you spent gold with them, they used it to trade and have merchants caravans that players can rob
Players would have to have a limit to how much gold they can carry and banks have a risk of being robbed, to stop players that quit with huge sums of limited resource gold, from influencing the currency market when not playing for like a year
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Might I suggest the most basic (and often hated) mechanic, gold> RNG item upgrade with chance of destruction?
Before you crucify me, think on it. What does EVERYONE want? Power. Money will burn like tinder, making crafters and crafting extremely important. I've never seen any other gold sink work, item repairs/durability loss failed way back in the time of UO.
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@tiltowait Since the game is full loot pvp, no thanks because I don't wanna get raped by people who play all day every day and can afford to gank in maxed gear.
Imo the best solution is to have big fees for the guild events.
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Money itself should be more spars to begin with, as only humanoid kinds of NPC will drop it. (still not sure if mining for actual materials to create money will be a thing)
Besides that, they can decide to put a hefty fee on creating portals for invasions (besides other materials required) and/or visiting asteroids
Don't forget that @Kralith"s Coffee will cost you an arm and a leg too. So you better start saving!
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^ Right... 200h in and nobody will care about why does that toad boss drop sword pieces or how beautiful the tree cutting animation is, but I will be very annoyed if I need to waste 15min on a regear every time I get ganked because we don't have enough coins in game to use the marketplace since money are only dropped by humanoid mobs which are scarce. If I have 2-3h of game time per work day, I want to have fun not waste it on boring stuff. I hope they will focus more on quality of life features and smooth gameplay than on roleplay.
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Has there even been any mention of a coin system? Since npcs don't drop coins how will coins get into the system? Npc missions? Crafting to sell to npcs?
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@Farlander I don't think they are mentioned yet.
PS: @Prometheus can you make some light on this? Are we going to have coins? If yes, have you decided yet how they will be obtained. If not, have you decided how will marketplaces work?
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@tiltowait said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
Might I suggest the most basic (and often hated) mechanic, gold> RNG item upgrade with chance of destruction?
fuck. no.
this isn't an Asian grind mmo.
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@Yitra said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
Don't forget that @Kralith"s Coffee will cost you an arm and a leg too. So you better start saving!
Well the arm or the leg is the mild form... it will cost the souls.
But shhhhh don't reveal it!
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@Kralith said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
@Yitra said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
Don't forget that @Kralith"s Coffee will cost you an arm and a leg too. So you better start saving!
Well the arm or the leg is the mild form... it will cost the souls.
But shhhhh don't reveal it!so long as the arm and leg doesn't have to belong to me, i'm ok with that price!
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@Jetah
If I were him, I'd only accept ears... especially if they come from third party sources.
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@Razvan said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
@Jetah
If I were her, I'd only accept ears... especially if they come from third party sources.
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@Kralith said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
@Razvan said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
@Jetah
If I were her, I'd only accept ears... especially if they come from third party sources.online, everyone is a him >:D
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Market deployment as well as ways to keep things accessible to newer players will be important for the longevity of the game. Coin sinks are important, but finding the balance is needed.
@Farlander
We know there's some sort of coin, or barter item exists because Governors of towns set a tax rate as described in Towns, Governors & Politics (one of the previous spotlights)
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@Savitr said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
Market deployment as well as ways to keep things accessible to newer players will be important for the longevity of the game. Coin sinks are important, but finding the balance is needed.
@Farlander
We know there's some sort of coin, or barter item exists because Governors of towns set a tax rate as described in Towns, Governors & Politics (one of the previous spotlights)taxes can be raw resources tho. depending on the UI it could be anything; weapons, armor, food, water, etc. (i'm sure it'll be gold tho, it'll be boring.)
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@Jetah said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
@Savitr said in What will be the in-game gold sinks?:
Market deployment as well as ways to keep things accessible to newer players will be important for the longevity of the game. Coin sinks are important, but finding the balance is needed.
@Farlander
We know there's some sort of coin, or barter item exists because Governors of towns set a tax rate as described in Towns, Governors & Politics (one of the previous spotlights)taxes can be raw resources tho. depending on the UI it could be anything; weapons, armor, food, water, etc. (i'm sure it'll be gold tho, it'll be boring.)
Citizen it's time to pay your tax...
Oh ok (hands gold over)
?????? Why are you giving me gold, hand me your underwear
