@phaethonas I guess the last option would keep most happy with no fighting being allowed means the care bears would be happy. Personally I wouldnt like there to be no PvP at all, but it would be the easiest solution to having the most people happy. Or have 20% where demons can roam and there is pvp there but full of mats so that demons can collect them.
@phaethonas Dont get me wrong, I've stated various times that I'm happy that there is PvP. I wont run from it, I'd fight especially if I'm at an advantage and someone tries to take my shit lol. I'm just trying to point out the 'other sides worry'.
Granted, I agree, if the planets are self sustaining then you need to allow mechanics for travel, but it also doesnt mean you need to allow PvP everywhere at all times. You could have a section of Arboreus there materials and the like are farmable that everyone can go (say 10-20% of the planet) but the rest of the world is restricted to beastmen. Not saying this is the perfect answer but there are ways round it so that materials can still be gained with everyone in mind, if that is the argument PvPer's are saying. Then everyone should be happy, right?
But I'm going to assume thats not the case lol. Therein is where the truth lies.
@phaethonas Whilst I dont agree that PvPer's should be locked out, it is a lot harder to argue for those who want to impose themselves on others against those who dont. I think thats the core difference. One group isnt happy with fighting each other and desire to involves those who dont and people feel as those others are going out of their way to make sure they wont enjoy a game they would otherwise have. Again, I dont feel though that PvP should be stuck behind an arena. It should stay open world and just keep the rules DS have in place - 2 worlds with pretty much open pvp with the third very restricted and debuffed if done so. I personally think this is the best of both.
@phaethonas He does have a point in that it seems that its just pk'ers looking for easy kills against those who dont know how to. I think thats the fear a lot of people have. But then again I'm quite happy with the decision DS have done with the stat reduction so I dont think its much of an issue anymore.
@jetah said in I want to get excited but...:
@miffi said in I want to get excited but...:
@wyze said in I want to get excited but...:
People are so soft these days, just PvP and enjoy the adrenaline in your body when you being chased by a group trying to survive and not dropping your loot
or just kill people and ez loot + profit..Just enjoy the game don't think too much about it.
Whilst I do like to PvP personally, I dont think bullying people is the right way either. But this has already been pretty much dealt with due to the debuffs and so on. I would turn and fight, but I do feel bad for those who just wish to enjoy the gear and items they have worked for. As @kellewic pointed out previously, its that Pk'ers arent generally in it for the fair risk reward element, just to take what others have worked for. So its just the cowardly ones that bother me.
there isn't much fair risk/reward when traveling to a planet and you get a 20% reduction in stats.
Right, but thats because the person in question chose to go and take from someone else. Thats my point. If you want to take from others who do not wish to engage in that and be forced to do so then they take a reduction because of the choice. Also, I wasnt aware that the % was sai, so its a 20% reduction?
@wyze said in I want to get excited but...:
People are so soft these days, just PvP and enjoy the adrenaline in your body when you being chased by a group trying to survive and not dropping your loot
or just kill people and ez loot + profit..Just enjoy the game don't think too much about it.
Whilst I do like to PvP personally, I dont think bullying people is the right way either. But this has already been pretty much dealt with due to the debuffs and so on. I would turn and fight, but I do feel bad for those who just wish to enjoy the gear and items they have worked for. As @kellewic pointed out previously, its that Pk'ers arent generally in it for the fair risk reward element, just to take what others have worked for. So its just the cowardly ones that bother me.
Like Specter mentioned and the Kickstarter should be soon if I'm correct.
@gothix Yes, pretty much. I think this is a good balance as I like both, I just dont want to force others who dont want to be involved. Those who do can kill each other to their hearts bleeding content :dagger:
@soonhari although I can see what you mean, spatialOS mechanics means that you cant zoom out much like they mentioned in the video. Maybe vertically is possible though?
Amazing stuff! If this isnt even pre-alpha stage yet then you are certainly moving in the right direction. Well done guys! Impressive.
D2 here, POE wasnt bad for a while but like some have mentioned I could never get into it to the same degree as D2. I also agree that Wolcen is shaping up to be a pretty decent ARPG. Here's to hoping Fractured blows them all out of the water 
@vengu said in Spells and ability list:
From the third spotlight: (https://fracturedmmo.com/feature-spotlight-3-knowledge-system/)
When you open your Character Abilities window for the first time, almost all the spells listed in each School are in an Unknown state.
When an ability is Unknown, you character doesn’t know anything about it (surprising, eh), including its effect and what are the tasks required to unlock it – you’re only able to catch a glimpse of its icon. How to discover an ability? Just play the game! Travel, fight, gather, craft – whatever you fancy. As soon as you accidentally perform one of the tasks required to unlock an ability, it will switch to Discovered state.
Ahh, thanks Vengu!
Will spells and abilities be visible in some list or will they be hidden until you discover them?
@chrightt From my understanding the cosmetic pets wont do any damage, so the only use I can see them being is the whole 'pick up items' for you deal. Which is useful but I agree, them flooding the whole screen is annoying. It also does remove immersion a bit if EVERYONE has a pet lol but thats a minor issue compared to it just flooding the screen.
@chrightt I feel the same but about cosmetics, I much rather have actual combat bets that you need to fight if in PvP and what not. I find cosmetics are more annoying because they are always little tiny things that just yap and do nothing else.
@jetah You might as well have different financial classes that are chosen for people when they create characters with that logic. Player A starts off with 1 mil in currency and player B 1000. That would make the game more like real life and unbalanced. But if player A farmed that money in game which he then went and hired a personal fractured tutor to teach him the game, then thats totally fine if thats what he so chooses.
