Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability
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Hello everyone! Demons will have some small advantages, especially during the Asteroids events, but they won't have the possibility to summon others of the same race.
Explaining how the teleport will work in Fractured; one single person should ever initiate the act of teleporting or casting a spell or entering a portal, and there will be:
- teleporting spells that will be almost direct and will transport only the caster.
- Portals or teleporting systems for a group of people or materials: in this case, it will be necessary a structure of some kind (permanent or not), and a high consumption of resources.
So in general, teleporting will be a really tough activity and will require a big effort!
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@Znirf said in Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability:
Hello everyone! Demons will have some small advantages, especially during the Asteroids events, but they won't have the possibility to summon others of the same race.
Explaining how the teleport will work in Fractured; one single person should ever initiate the act of teleporting or casting a spell or entering a portal, and there will be:
- teleporting spells that will be almost direct and will transport only the caster.
- Portals or teleporting systems for a group of people or materials: in this case, it will be necessary a structure of some kind (permanent or not), and a high consumption of resources.
So in general, teleporting will be a really tough activity and will require a big effort!
we're asking for a "summon demon" spell that lets us control or be controlled.
IE humans summon a demon (plenty of folklore and anime about this as examples) to take over the world and grant the summoner immense power. Instead of that, it's asking a Demon if they wish to be a 'slave' for a while as a gameplay option.This wouldn't give the summoned demon free reign like a teleport.
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@Znirf said in Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability:
Hello everyone! Demons will have some small advantages, especially during the Asteroids events, but they won't have the possibility to summon others of the same race.
Explaining how the teleport will work in Fractured; one single person should ever initiate the act of teleporting or casting a spell or entering a portal, and there will be:
- teleporting spells that will be almost direct and will transport only the caster.
- Portals or teleporting systems for a group of people or materials: in this case, it will be necessary a structure of some kind (permanent or not), and a high consumption of resources.
So in general, teleporting will be a really tough activity and will require a big effort!
We're talking about, for example, being a player demon, and suddenly a shiny portal spawns in front of you and you get a pop-up stating that somebody's calling you from the other side of the portal, and when you walk through you are transported from Tartaros to Syndesia, into a summoner's party and become a PC summoned demon
Even if for only a temporary.
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@Jetah said in Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability:
we're asking for a "summon demon" spell that lets us control or be controlled.
IE humans summon a demon (plenty of folklore and anime about this as examples) to take over the world and grant the summoner immense power. Instead of that, it's asking a Demon if they wish to be a 'slave' for a while as a gameplay option.This wouldn't give the summoned demon free reign like a teleport.
@deusex2 said in Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability:
We're talking about, for example, being a player demon, and suddenly a shiny portal spawns in front of you and you get a pop-up stating that somebody's calling you from the other side of the portal, and when you walk through you are transported from Tartaros to Syndesia, into a summoner's party and become a PC summoned demon
Even if for only a temporary.
Instead of a "harsh" NO, I think by implication he is saying that what you guys are asking for, will not be implemented.
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Question is also, if you accept this request as demon, would would happen with all your stuff you had in bag (and gear)?
If it just dropped on the ground for someone to take it, and you would lose it, no one would really accept such requests.
If it got ported to your house, or just stayed somehow protected somewhere, people could abuse this to safe guard their stuff for a while, in need, or port it to their homes.
If it went together with you, it would be abused for quick transportation of goods. Humans would summon demons to trade with them.
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@Yitra said in Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability:
@Jetah said in Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability:
we're asking for a "summon demon" spell that lets us control or be controlled.
IE humans summon a demon (plenty of folklore and anime about this as examples) to take over the world and grant the summoner immense power. Instead of that, it's asking a Demon if they wish to be a 'slave' for a while as a gameplay option.This wouldn't give the summoned demon free reign like a teleport.
@deusex2 said in Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability:
We're talking about, for example, being a player demon, and suddenly a shiny portal spawns in front of you and you get a pop-up stating that somebody's calling you from the other side of the portal, and when you walk through you are transported from Tartaros to Syndesia, into a summoner's party and become a PC summoned demon
Even if for only a temporary.
Instead of a "harsh" NO, I think by implication he is saying that what you guys are asking for, will not be implemented.
honestly the comment by the CM just sounds like they had no idea what we were wanting. they assumed it was a teleport spell to moving demons freely between locations when what we want is a spell that allows the demon to be a slave for a period of time. sure it would look like a teleport but it isn't in that the demon being summoned wouldn't have free control over the area where they move. IE when summoned, they'd have a limited range around the summoner and would be forced teleported (just like a hunter's pet). they would only be able to attack 'hostile' enemies based on what the summoner has set (would a hunter have aggressive, defensive, passive for their pet). the summoned demon would be a player controlled pet in the grand scheme of things. only advantage the demon would get is they'd gain knowledge as though they were to use a portal. This is the incentive to be summoned. IE if one mob on the human planet was further away than 30 minutes (typical invasion timer) then you'd never get access to said mobs, however, if a human (or neutral other race) summoned you and they were grinding in that location then you'd gain knowledge. it's a win-win. the summoner gets immersion being able to 'summon a powerful demon' and the demon gets knowledge for that area, the mobs, any exploration that might happen, maybe even some knowledge on the spells or abilities the summoner was using. without any knowledge being granted to the demon, the demons have no reason to be summoned for a set time.
a limit could be placed on an account so that one account can be summoned once per 20-24 hours or a 'favorite' demon could be setup so that the summoner feels like they're summoning the same demon. Maybe some demon wants their account to be specific for summons!
@Gothix
you'd either get a 'new body' but your gear wouldn't ever be dropped. either a new body is created and you're given gear by the summoner or you use the gear you have equipped but it wont be damage.you arent' picking stuff up so you'd have no need for inventory. you aren't taking durability hit by using your gear either.
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while reading my post, after checking out the upvote, I realized the summon could be a 'mount'. let me explain.
in WoW there are certain quest where your character is playing another character. that new character has a few specific abilities. this allows you to experience a perspective of gameplay that we wouldn't have access to. One such quest was you being Khadgar. Another was being 1 of 3 ancients during the Ancient War. Another was being a Naga.
It would mean the summoner could summon a specific type of demon. If a player wasn't available to accept it then the AI could control it just as it was any pet.
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@Yitra said in Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability:
@Jetah said in Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability:
we're asking for a "summon demon" spell that lets us control or be controlled.
IE humans summon a demon (plenty of folklore and anime about this as examples) to take over the world and grant the summoner immense power. Instead of that, it's asking a Demon if they wish to be a 'slave' for a while as a gameplay option.This wouldn't give the summoned demon free reign like a teleport.
@deusex2 said in Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability:
We're talking about, for example, being a player demon, and suddenly a shiny portal spawns in front of you and you get a pop-up stating that somebody's calling you from the other side of the portal, and when you walk through you are transported from Tartaros to Syndesia, into a summoner's party and become a PC summoned demon
Even if for only a temporary.
Instead of a "harsh" NO, I think by implication he is saying that what you guys are asking for, will not be implemented.
Hey, never say "never." And besides, I wasn't sure what the mod was talking about, really.
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I'm not fond of the "demon as party member" concept, but I think summoning would be a nice way to interact with Tartarus.
I would suggest the following limitations:
- the demon cannot go far from the invocation pentacle.
- drawing a pentacle takes time (no instant summon).
- invocation pentacles have a maximum duration.
- an optional containment circle can be drawn around the invocation pentacle to prevent demon from moving and PvP. This circle prevents item exchanges too.
- rare demonic consumables or items have to be used (for example, owning one of demon body parts. PvP should be the way to obtain those).
- any item exchanged through summoning is bound to the invocation pentacle duration.
I think summoning would be interesting simply to chat and arrange game events (an evil human could designate a specific target to be destroyed during an eclipse? arrange interplanetary trade?). Also, there are many form of help a demon can provide to a summoner (some Tartarus specific buff spells, for example?)
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I'm sure something will come about as there has to be a way for friends, of which their characters may be of a different race, to be able to interact with one another in-game whether it be limited or not. Otherwise a group of friends will have to choose the same race to play with one another, which I am sure is not uncommon. Unless there is already a system in place that I am not aware of.
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@LordGorgeous the actual gameplan as the Devs have stated is for racial segregation. To share the same guild you need to be from the same race. To exist on the same planet for an extended period of time you need to be of the same race, etc...
The only time, really, that groups of mixed races might be found is on the random Asteroid events, and that just means making portals to the asteroids appear on all 3 worlds.
This is not, like most games, really meant to be an interracial party play game.
