@Xandrathii said in Loot Distribution Systems for Parties: pitty to hear that, groups i am in we designate a gold looter and then it all gets pooled and evenly split at the end or when someone has to leave. We also tend to split up crafting mats in very "need" before greed ways. If someone uses gear that takes that type of crafting mat to make more they tend to get priority on the stuff... and of course this is all an honor system. It's good to know that there are some decent people out there, who respect other members of their group enough to ensure that they are attributed what they put forth their time and effort to earn, but they are the minority and always have been the minority—especially in these games of this nature where you greet someone one moment and you see them run up to a camp you're in the middle of clearing the next moment to steal the chest right in front of you. the hard coded loot system your talking about has been abused too.. people don't get anything because someone is always hitting need when they dont need the items.. or master looter that does not split the loot at the end. I know the competitive nature of the current system is not great but it will not change things for those of us already to polite in a party to gain loot in an even manner.. It has more precautionary measures that the players can use to their advantage to avoid abuse or avaricious behaviors of selfish players: Round-robin having the most precautions since it can't be abused in the first place as it the system regulates the loot. Need Before Greed having the second most because everyone will see who selected "greed", "need", or "pass", all of the rolls, and rolled the highest/won the item. Master Looter having the least because this one relies on trusting in the party leader or whomever is designated as the looter(s). While people can try to abuse this, they will be noticed and are usually dealt with by the leader of the party, or the members of the party if it is the leader. The fact you brought this up is even more proof of why we need these systems. I think this is a socially complex problem with no really good solution. Just make sure the people your running with are all likeminded about splitting loot..? It's a problem that can be more easily resolved with systems in place for regulating loot. If we see someone snatching all of the loot, we will see it logged in the chat and can call them out for it or boot them from the party accordingly for being selfish. Please keep in mind that your experiences do not invalidate the experiences of the whole. This has been an ongoing problem since the previous tests where many players who formed groups with others—randoms in particular (and this should not be discouraged since MMORPGs are also all about meeting and grouping up with random players)—struggled to get loot. Those who are closer to corpses, typically those with melee builds or those who have mobility to cover the distance, tend to snatch what they want while the ranged players such as archers, casters, or healers, have to hope there is something left for them or have to repeatedly remind members of their party to share the loot. This should not have to be repeatedly done hence why be need loot distribution systems, other than Free-For-All, to make grouping up with other random players less of a detrimental disadvantage and a "mini game" of trust.

@roccandil said in PvP loot, an yet unasked question and diferent POV: @dragomok said in PvP loot, an yet unasked question and diferent POV: Honest-to-goodness, low-power-curve, horizontal progression is not something that was ever featured in a succesful MMO, as far as I can tell. [...] One possible consequence is that it will be relatively straightforward to build a bunch of toons, all specced out for different purposes, and then you can just log with the one you need. So, just like all other MMOs, minus 80 levels of grind between creating a toon and using it?

still if there was something like a blacksmith skill you could improve to make better gear it would be cool