Moba Style mmorpgs Best for Full-Loot Sandbox, Hardcore games

[memokal]

i actually think that way. I took a look into crowfall and other kind of games but.. They actually feel such bad to me by many aspects, for example: combat style and usage of aoe skills. Map feels more empty and huge.. zvz fights would be very cancer and laggy as i can say as i experienced.

so what do you think?

[Dordolio]

I don't like moba like or battle arena like. As infinite player (as opposed to finite players, who play to win) I don't care for winning a game
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_and_Infinite_Games
and/or https://fractalenlightenment.com/32173/life/6-signs-you-may-be-an-infinite-player
a very clear explanation by Simon Sinek also on youtube

so, as for lootboxes. sandbox, hardcore. I don't care.

then we have the same silly arguments as no endgame, pvp gear needs to be better then pve gear... sigh.