Honestly, I'd just take out random player executions in Syndesia. When an evil player knocks down a random player out in the wild they get gold or jewelry that player might have on them, you know like a normal robbery. Karma hit commensurate to the value of the 3 possible things looted. Rings / gold that can be grabbed by evil players. Knocked down player still has their gear and normal pack. You can probably reduce penalties since no one is actually dying. Could leave in death / executions for GvG / Sieges / factions / bounty system sheriffs.

Possibly let them take the weapon the player is actively holding. Making it pockets / jewelry / equipped weapon. You know things easily taken from a robbed person.

@Nekrage

I never understand this, they are docking you time for PKing people only if you get caught correct? What's wrong with that, whats the cumulative time you cost people that you killed to earn that bounty? I've asked this on many forums and in many games back to UO in 97, why is your time more valuable than mine? When you are brought to justice you should suffer a time sink that I lost. Who do you think you are elevating your time above others?

@Nekrage

I've played enough PvP MMOs to know that PKs drive off the bulk of the pop unless you curb them. This game has an advertised FFA world for people to do just that. Treating the middle ground like an FFA ruleset is mind boggling nonsense.

@Nekrage

It's never worked, harsh penalties need to be implemented for a middle ground ruleset. Devs need to stick to their guns on their design decisions. Removing jail all together is a terrible plan.

@d3Sync said in Bounty Hunting & Jails - Official Feedback Thread:

@Hilgard said in Bounty Hunting & Jails - Official Feedback Thread:

@d3Sync said in Bounty Hunting & Jails - Official Feedback Thread:

@Nekrage Can you have a civil discussion without insulting people?

Prometheus asked for a lack of toxicity. You are disrespecting him.

We can have a discussion without the childish behavior.

I thought it was weird that you were singling Nekrage out when there was someone else doing the exact same thing so I did some snooping.

Turns out you were attacking him on the Discord server yesterday lol. Seems like you have a horse in this race.

I think we can have a discussion without your childish behavior. Sound like a good plan?

I don't think Nekrage calling people morons, and worse in this thread after Prometheus asked people to be civil is an unwarranted criticism.

I'm not here for the toxicity. My discord interaction with him had nothing to do with my response here.

The fact that you are defending that sort of behavior out of him leads me to believe you have a horse in this race.

There wasn't any name calling from my end till he decided to act like a child. I made a simple post and he declared my opinion null and void cause it didn't align with his own. Then when asked a few simple questions about the value of real time, he decided to resort to insults. Again, not my fault he acts like a child. Not for nothing, he made it very clear he doesn't believe in the devs vision for the game currently, I don't see why he warrants defense from anyone.

Honestly, I'd just take out random player executions in Syndesia. When an evil player knocks down a random player out in the wild they get gold or jewelry that player might have on them, you know like a normal robbery. Karma hit commensurate to the value of the 3 possible things looted. Rings / gold that can be grabbed by evil players. Knocked down player still has their gear and normal pack. You can probably reduce penalties since no one is actually dying. Could leave in death / executions for GvG / Sieges / factions / bounty system sheriffs.

Possibly let them take the weapon the player is actively holding. Making it pockets / jewelry / equipped weapon. You know things easily taken from a robbed person.

@Hilgard said in Bounty Hunting & Jails - Official Feedback Thread:

There wasn't any name calling from my end till he decided to act like a child. I made a simple post and he declared my opinion null and void cause it didn't align with his own. Then when asked a few simple questions about the value of real time, he decided to resort to insults. Again, not my fault he acts like a child.

Are we looking at the same thread? Lol.

Nekrage is quite literally one of the only players in this community that as consistently gone to bat for Fractured's health and has brought hundreds to this community. Yet you did...what? 11 FORUM POSTS IN 3 YEARS all in this thread.

Ya. A great addition to this community. Lol have a good night.

I'm sorry was my first post even directed at him. It was simple feedback and he decided to engage me and explain that it was useless and should be ignored. At which point the first unnecessary swear posted to word here was by him, when he felt going straight to a vulgar insult was warranted. It's comical you are here to call out someone for having a horse in a race when you obviously have your own as well. I'll post as much as I want when I want to participate and leave feedback. Also, a comical attack when you have a handful of posts yourself over the course of 10 months or so.

@d3Sync said in Bounty Hunting & Jails - Official Feedback Thread:

@Hilgard said in Bounty Hunting & Jails - Official Feedback Thread:

@d3Sync said in Bounty Hunting & Jails - Official Feedback Thread:

@Nekrage Can you have a civil discussion without insulting people?

Prometheus asked for a lack of toxicity. You are disrespecting him.

We can have a discussion without the childish behavior.

I thought it was weird that you were singling Nekrage out when there was someone else doing the exact same thing so I did some snooping.

Turns out you were attacking him on the Discord server yesterday lol. Seems like you have a horse in this race.

I think we can have a discussion without your childish behavior. Sound like a good plan?

I don't think Nekrage calling people morons, and worse in this thread after Prometheus asked people to be civil is an unwarranted criticism.

I'm not here for the toxicity. My discord interaction with him had nothing to do with my response here.

The fact that you are defending that sort of behavior out of him leads me to believe you have a horse in this race.

There wasn't any name calling from my end till he decided to act like a child. I made a simple post and he declared my opinion null and void cause it didn't align with his own. Then when asked a few simple questions about the value of real time, he decided to resort to insults. Again, not my fault he acts like a child. Not for nothing, he made it very clear he doesn't believe in the devs vision for the game currently, I don't see why he warrants defense from anyone.

@Nekrage
I've played every time they opened it up and I am playing in this alpha. So your gotcha to my account being older is you think I'm not actually playing? That's a rich way to discount you being selfish.

@Nekrage

Alt account that is older than your account. I must have thought that through years ago.

@Nekrage

Fuck out of here you child. You are bent out of shape cause someone pointed out how selfish you are as you pretend to tell everyone you are only here for the good of the game. What a comical spectacle. What it comes down to is you don't actually like the game they advertised. Great outcome.

@Nekrage

Your literal suggestion was to eliminate the jail. it wasn't eliminate jail for petty offenses, it was eliminate the jail. Stop. You want the jail gone cause the alpha testing you are participating in isn't allowing you to gank hard cause they are testing jails. Get a grip a guy. Anybody who can't read through that whole post of yours and gather that you just want to murder with little consequence isn't paying attention.

You are absolutely advocating for your time to be more valuable than the people you kill when your entire suggestion boils down to remove our harsh punishment system all together. Joke of a post.

Also this argument has been going on since PKs decimated UO in 97-98 and forced the devs to put in Tram, it's not some new SJW thing or whatever you labeled it. Your time is not more important than everyone else.

@Nekrage

Is it elitist snobbery that makes you think your time is more precious than everyone else you victimize in game?

@Nekrage

I never understand this, they are docking you time for PKing people only if you get caught correct? What's wrong with that, whats the cumulative time you cost people that you killed to earn that bounty? I've asked this on many forums and in many games back to UO in 97, why is your time more valuable than mine? When you are brought to justice you should suffer a time sink that I lost. Who do you think you are elevating your time above others?

@Nekrage

It's never worked, harsh penalties need to be implemented for a middle ground ruleset. Devs need to stick to their guns on their design decisions. Removing jail all together is a terrible plan.